Hey everyone just thought I would give everyone an update on my attention system.  As I have been working on this I have had to climb one hill after another but Iam making progress I have made to camera grabbers one that does a standard cart type image the other does a logpolar type image the logapolar help me to overcome some identification issues and vergence on the eyes it allows me to give it more normal eye movements color segmentation, color processing, face detector, blob detector, hand detector, optical flow, and face tracker are done.  I still have quite a bit of work to do.  I was wondering if kwatters would help me with the kinematics and cartesian stuff to solve some of the problems I have to change the way the head and eyes are move,  think of it as a chain object to eye to neck hopefully have some stuff to show you soon